From: Don HARLOW Organization: Esperanto League for North America, Inc. David Lawrence <73372.377 /c`e/ CompuServe.COM>: I have been learning Esperanto just for fun. However, I'm at the point where I'll either drop it or learn it properly. So what I'd like to know is this: what do the 2 million (?) Esperantists use the language for, besides posting things in SCE? What do UEA and ELNA actually do? Is it primarily a hobby or does it have practical uses? I stumbled across Esperanto by chance in a London fair long ago, but I've never met anyone who really knows what Esperanto is. ELNA and UEA both exist to promote Esperanto. If you are interested in this, you might want to join one or both. ELNA publishes a newsletter and UEA publishes both a monthly magazine and a yearbook of great interest to _movadanoj_. If none of these things interest you, then you probably wouldn't be particularly interested in either organization. Otherwise... (1) Posting things to SCE. (2) Posting thiings to IRC. O.K., I'm just being funny. Beyond this... (3) Correspondence. Getting friends all over the world is great fun, and can teach you much about other places that you won't learn in your daily paper. Besides, having friends all over the world can be very useful and money-saving when you want to ... (4) Travel. And if you don't have a network of pen-pals to depend on, you can join Pasporta Servo or SAT's Amikeca Reto, which will provide you with lists of people who provide lodgings for peregrinating Esperantists, usually in return for a bit of conversation in Esperanto. As mentioned above, this can be quite money-saving. An acquaintance of mine, who stayed on in East Asia after the 1986 World Esperanto Congress in Beijing for about six months, estimated that he saved between three and six thousand dollars on hotel bills just by having Esperantists to stay and talk with. (And try talking with a foreign hotel clerk sometime; their English is often limited to "Please fill out this form", "You may change your money over there", and "One hundred dollars, please".) I should also quote the case of Joel Brozovsky of Spokane, who went to Europe one years with a few hundred dollars and a return ticket in his pocket, interested in meeting a few Esperantists and then returning when he ran out of money. He ran out of money and returned ... about three years later, from Japan. (He's back in Japan, now, helping edit an Esperanto magazine.) Of course, if one-on-one isn't your thing, you may want to go to ... (5) Conventions. There are several hundred of these every year, ranging from small local or SIG meetings with half a dozen participants to the World Esperanto Congress (which will be held in Tampere, Finland, this years with an estimate 3000 participants). Some of these, of course, are quite serious. Some are not. WARNING: the unwed should tread warily at some Esperanto conferences. I know of cases where participants returned with more souvenirs than they expected when they left home. This, by the way, leads us to another practical use of the language, raising children who speak it as their first language. Sometimes this happens because the parents are enthusiastic, as was the case with Lisa Helmuth in San Diego or Xie Revon in Beijing. Sometimes it happens because the parents don't have a lot of choice, not having some other language in common, as was the case with the Chomettes in Los Angeles and the Bartos^iks in Prague (from among those I know). Of course, if you don't have a lot of money with which to travel abroad (a situation with which I can easily sympathize), you may be stuck with doing a lot of ... (6) Reading in Esperanto. There are plenty of magazines out there -- I estimate, about 500 of them (including a zillion local group bulletins), of which perhaps 100-200 are of genuine international interest. There are also lots of books to read, from many different parts of the world, including some with which you are probably unfamiliar. You can check out some of these by taking a look at the ELNA Book Service's on-line book catalog, which is available in both plain vanilla and HTML format at the ELNA FTP site (see below). Of course, if you belong to a generation that doesn't like reading, you may prefer to use Esperanto... (7) Audio-visually. Aside from a mass of tapes and CDs of rock music in Esperanto, there are several movies and a number of travelogues available on tape (but warning: most of them are in PAL format, and if you get them and live in the States, you have to pay to convert them to whatever format it is we use -- NTSC, I think). Also, you may like to listen to the radio in Esperanto (but warning, again: you need a very good short-wave radio to pick up any of the dozen or so stations that broadcast in Esperanto). I hope this gives you some idea of what Esperanto is useful for. > I apologize for using English, but my Esperanto isn't great and I want other beginners or interested people to be able to understand this message and any replies. < If you repost your message in Esperanto, you'll probably get a wider and more interesting range of replies. Ne timu. > PS If there is a connection between eating meat and anti- esperantism, I don't want to know about it. < Many Esperantists realize that meat-eating is not only inherently immoral, involving as it does the murder of many innocent animals, but that it is also basically unhealthy, leading to massive buildups of fat and cholesterol in the human body and, ultimately, death. Others of us mutter, "Oh, what the hell!" and dig into our steaks. One of the major disadvantages with learning Esperanto is that you will probably encounter a broader range of opinions than you are used to -- and some of them may disagree very profoundly with the axioms on which your world rests. Something we all have to learn to live with. -- Don HARLOW donh /c`e/ netcom.com Esperanto League for N.A. elna /c`e/ netcom.com (800) 828-5944 ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/el/elna/elna.html Esperanto http://www.webcom.com/~donh ---------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: The above addresses are no longer valid. Current address of the Esperanto League for North America: http://www.esperanto-usa.org/ (800) ESPERANTO / (800) 377-3726 Don Harlow's site: http://www.best.com/~donh/Esperanto/